On “Tucker Carlson Tonight,” Ayaan Hirsi Ali recently blasted what she called the “apologetic attitude” many liberals seem to have toward Islamism and Islamic terrorism.

Hirsi Ali, who was raised Muslim in Somalia but has renounced her former religion, said the Islamist playbook is simple: indoctrination, intimidation, and force.

She said Western efforts to appease Islamism can have the perverse effect of fueling extremism, because many view it as “God’s hand” and evidence their movement is succeeding. 

“Islamists want a Sharia compliant society,” she said. “Whoever is in their way is their enemy. And it doesn’t matter how nice the liberals are, how accommodating or obliging they are.” Hirsi Ali added that “if you don’t understand that I don’t think you should be in the business of legislation.”

We’ve provided a snippet of the interview below, but you can watch the entire interview here.

Is Hirsi Ali right? Or are her conclusions too sweeping?